I started WikiLeaks because I understood that simple, direct engagements in politics don’t work, that everything that is politically possible is defined by what is possible to report in the media. That we’ve been in a media-ocracy, which means that presently, spin masters are those people who rise to the top. That has something to do with the nature of media reporting, the lack of diversification of media ownership in Australia, the constraints on good, quality of investigative journalism.

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